[00:00:20] Speaker A: Oh, hey. Well, how about that? We're on the mic.
My name is Alex. Welcome back to Everybody Loves everybody Loves Raymond. I am the mayor of beautiful Limbrook, and I am currently making a dinner. Joining me tonight, as always, is my voluptuous friend, Mike G. That's me.
[00:00:40] Speaker B: Hi, I'm Mike G. I am the Limbrook ambassador of lemon chicken. I've been chosen by the lemons and the chickens of the world to come to Limbrook and observe this feast.
[00:00:53] Speaker A: Wow, you were a bipartisan vote. Yeah, it's pretty good.
[00:00:57] Speaker B: I had to bribe two people. I mean, two pre elections.
[00:01:02] Speaker C: The whole parliament came out to let you be in charge of lemon chicken. It was really inspiring.
[00:01:08] Speaker A: Who is that?
[00:01:09] Speaker B: Who?
[00:01:10] Speaker C: Just well, I'm Adam. I am, of course, the curator of the Limbrook Museum, and we are so excited, of course, to bring you the renoir exhibit. And it's not the one you're thinking of, but it's still a renoir.
[00:01:28] Speaker A: Hell, yeah. And you know what? We're in a bit of a rush tonight, so we're going to be recording season three, episode five, The Visit, while we are preparing this lovely feast for some very special people, wouldn't you guys say?
[00:01:44] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, the most special, for sure. I've invited some of the most distinguished people from the art world to come and have dinner with us tonight. Guggenheim.
Mr. Guggenheim and wife. Mr. And Mrs. Guggenheim.
Mr. MoMA. Mr. Met. Mrs. Met.
I've got quite a few people coming. Yeah, I was impressed that you obviously Mr. Met. Meaning? I hope that there wasn't a mix up.
[00:02:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I have a feeling the mascot, Mr. Met, would not be great on.
[00:02:28] Speaker C: A I mean, it probably wouldn't scam, but I sent it to Mr. Met, care of the Metropolitan Museum of Art. But who knows what's going to happen? You know how crazy that New York postal district is?
[00:02:44] Speaker B: We do indeed. I invited my mom.
[00:02:48] Speaker A: Oh, that's so sweet.
[00:02:49] Speaker B: Yeah, that's it.
[00:02:50] Speaker C: That's nice. Mrs by the way yeah.
[00:02:53] Speaker A: I forgot to mention that this is season three, episode five, The Visit. Real quickly, Deborah's mother comes to visit the family, and things don't go great. Over dinner, Deborah begins to see what her own brother lacks and begins to appreciate Marie just a tad more. It's quite an interesting episode. I got a lot to say about it. I'm sure you boys do as well.
[00:03:14] Speaker B: Yes, we do, but we got to get these lemons on this chicken.
[00:03:18] Speaker A: You aren't do you want to cut them or just oh, like straight, whole on the chicken?
[00:03:22] Speaker B: No, we fed the lemons to the chicken. Now we just got to put another full lemon on top of the chicken. That's how it's made.
[00:03:29] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Grass fed cows. Lemon.
[00:03:32] Speaker C: Lemon fed chicken.
[00:03:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:33] Speaker C: Right.
[00:03:36] Speaker A: That's a band name.
[00:03:37] Speaker B: Lemon Fed Chicken. Yeah, I'd see him.
[00:03:40] Speaker C: And you're going to handle, like, the slaughter and all that yourself, right?
[00:03:46] Speaker B: Already done. I killed several dozen chickens.
[00:03:49] Speaker C: Okay, so those ones that are cowering in the corner, you don't need those ones.
[00:03:53] Speaker B: No, those are just extras. That's in case because here's the thing. I know that the baseball Mr. Met is a very hungry man. So in case there is the screw up, which we are all anticipating, to be clear, if that screw up does indeed happen, I know that I'm going to need to handle these chickens in order to assuage his hungry rage.
[00:04:18] Speaker C: Right. Famously, baseball Mr. Met runs around the bases at the 7th inning stretch, tearing the heads off of live chickens with his mouth. Correct.
I think that's from a John Waters movie. I think that's a divine thing. And there is obviously the theory that divine did become Mr. Met.
I can't speak on that.
[00:04:43] Speaker B: The kids love it.
[00:04:43] Speaker A: I don't like him. You don't like ego? I don't like Mr. Met. He's very egotistical.
[00:04:50] Speaker B: Is that it?
[00:04:50] Speaker A: He's got a big head.
[00:04:52] Speaker C: Oh, that's good. Yep, that's good.
Luckily, he's not coming. Mr. Metropolitan Museum of Art and wife hopefully will be coming. And they're very classy. They make Fraser look like a Woody Guthrie type rail rider from the turn of the 20th century.
They're so classy and refined.
We shouldn't have any problems.
[00:05:22] Speaker A: Great. Adam, what are you working on over there while Mike's lemoning his chicken?
[00:05:27] Speaker C: Well, I am just over here opening these bottles of Waserflus, the fine Swiss water that we've had imported because nothing but the best for our guests, and I'm taking them and I'm pouring them out into this bucket.
[00:05:42] Speaker A: Why would we get that water? We have New York water.
[00:05:46] Speaker C: These people are cosmopolitan. They've been all over the world, and they were insistent when they returned their RSVPs. They said, New York water is not that good.
[00:05:59] Speaker B: New York water is the best water to be like I don't know if that was, like, a bit or not, but I'll be honest with you, that's a real thing. New York water is some of the best water that you'll ever have in your life.
[00:06:09] Speaker C: Yeah. Our guests seem to dis, or at least my guests seem to disagree with that.
But, Alex, we didn't find out who your guests are. Who did you invite to the.
[00:06:21] Speaker A: Know? He should be here shortly, and I think he's going to be bringing a couple of pies of pizza with him.
[00:06:30] Speaker C: Oh, couple of pizza pies?
[00:06:33] Speaker A: Couple of pizza pies.
[00:06:34] Speaker C: All right. So we don't have to make pizza.
[00:06:36] Speaker B: When the moon hits your eye.
[00:06:38] Speaker C: All right.
[00:06:39] Speaker A: He's a priest over at that new church downtown. I think you guys are going to be excited to meet him.
[00:06:47] Speaker C: Okay, well, it's a beautiful church downtown, so I'm sure he's a beautiful man.
[00:06:53] Speaker A: Oh, he's gorgeous. I think. Yeah.
Let's see. Hang on. We got the lemon chicken, we got the wata.
[00:07:03] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:07:04] Speaker A: And that's it where the pizzas are coming.
What else do we need for, like, a nice dinner?
[00:07:10] Speaker B: Balloon.
[00:07:11] Speaker C: We need cake. Cake balloons. What if we had balloons made out of cake? Cake made out of balloons, vice versa.
[00:07:20] Speaker B: Somebody get Buddy Velastro on the line right fucking now.
Cut to a bakery in Hoboken, New Jersey. Hey, Gus, you got to get the chocolate. You got to get the chocolate fondant. Come on. What's happening here?
[00:07:34] Speaker C: I'm sorry, buddy. We're out of fondant. What do you mean?
The sarcophagus cake. We don't have enough I can't put.
[00:07:45] Speaker B: How the fuck am I supposed to put a real body in the we.
[00:07:50] Speaker C: Made this sarcophagus cake to put Steve Martin in, and he's going to burst out and do the King TUD dance. It's going to be great.
[00:07:58] Speaker A: I'm running out of earth.
[00:08:00] Speaker C: We got to get him over to PNC Bank Performing Arts Center now.
[00:08:03] Speaker B: It's a real load. Let's make it out. Let's make it out. I can't do anything. I'm the fucking cake boss and I can do anything.
[00:08:12] Speaker C: I can't take any more orders, Buddy. We got to shut it down.
[00:08:18] Speaker B: Hello?
[00:08:19] Speaker A: I'm going to die on camera.
[00:08:21] Speaker B: Shut up. Steve Martin. I'm on the.
[00:08:28] Speaker D: Is this the is this what's it called? Carlos Bakery.
[00:08:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm the Carlos bakery. Yeah, I'm the fucking cake boss. How can I help you?
[00:08:37] Speaker D: I don't like that language. We're hosting a dinner.
Do you know where Limbrook is? In Long Island?
[00:08:44] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm going to be real with you, man.
We got Steve Martin in a cake sarcophagus right now. I don't know if we got the time here. What do you know?
[00:08:56] Speaker D: Just a basic, very underwhelming looking, simple.
[00:08:59] Speaker C: Chocolate cake that our guests would get way too excited about.
[00:09:05] Speaker B: Hold on a second.
[00:09:07] Speaker D: Within the hour, if possible.
[00:09:09] Speaker B: Within the hour?
Yeah, within the hour. Lindbrook is a three hour drive from Hoboken, New Jersey.
[00:09:17] Speaker A: It shouldn't be two and a half hours by train.
[00:09:20] Speaker B: Two and a half hours by train?
[00:09:21] Speaker D: That also seems wrong.
[00:09:23] Speaker B: You expect me to make you a cake and get it to you within the hour?
[00:09:29] Speaker D: Well, I don't expect I'm asking you to listen. Not a demand.
[00:09:33] Speaker B: Listen here, buddy, I thought you listen here.
[00:09:40] Speaker D: Am I the cake? Did you just make me the cake boss?
[00:09:44] Speaker B: No, I'm the fucking cake boss. Let me make two things clear to you, Adam. You can make the cake let me make things clear. Two things clear. I'm buddy. Velastro. I'm good at two things.
Making cakes and violating traffic laws. Let's make it happen.
[00:10:02] Speaker D: Is that why it takes you so long? Oh, he hung up.
[00:10:06] Speaker B: Okay gus Guts forget Steve Martin We're fixing the fondant on the train. We got to get on the path and move it.
[00:10:16] Speaker C: All right, I'll bring Steve. I'm going to take some of the fondant off of yours. I got some sponge and frosting. Let's take all these cake ingredients on the looks like Steve is I guess I've heard of only murders in the building, but murder in the cake, sarcophagus.
[00:10:41] Speaker B: You'll do?
[00:10:41] Speaker A: Mama mia.
[00:10:42] Speaker B: Listen, we'll fix it with fondant on the train. Come on. Everything can be fixed with fondant. Let's go.
[00:10:49] Speaker C: And again, let's go on taking the.
[00:10:51] Speaker B: Path train because my license has been suspended due to my various traffic violations. Let's move it.
[00:10:59] Speaker C: Let's get on the path. Well, I think I put it in the order.
[00:11:03] Speaker A: That's good.
[00:11:04] Speaker C: I think it was successful. He did hang up quite some time ago and didn't ask for payment. Didn't give me a quote on the price. But he seemed determined, I'll say that much.
[00:11:16] Speaker B: Did you ask about the balloons, too?
[00:11:19] Speaker C: I didn't get to specify the shape that I wanted, and I know that's a big part of his process. He doesn't really do like grocery store style sheet cake.
[00:11:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. It's interesting that he so quickly it's.
[00:11:35] Speaker C: Almost he was it seemed like he was itching for a challenge. And also, I mean, not to gossip or anything, blind item here, but I think he had Steve Martin in a cake. Sarcophago.
[00:11:48] Speaker B: Oh, hey, listen, I've heard of only murders in the building, but only murders in the cake? That's a new one on me.
[00:12:02] Speaker C: Only murders in the cake. An excellent pun.
[00:12:08] Speaker A: It works on so many layers.
[00:12:10] Speaker B: Listen, no one's making a better joke.
[00:12:12] Speaker C: That's good.
It turns out that two people cannot come up with a cake based pun on only murders in the building.
[00:12:22] Speaker A: Mike, are you feeling a little nervous because your mom's going to come see this? Are you concerned that it has to go perfect?
[00:12:30] Speaker B: Yeah, my mom's very judgmental, and I'm just a little bit concerned.
Just listen, the last time that my mom met with someone from the art world, it did not go well.
She's very interested in her own photography to the point where all other forms of creating image are less like ma'am.
[00:12:55] Speaker C: You cannot take that down. You cannot thumbtack your own take it down. Step back. Step back.
[00:13:02] Speaker B: My back. Get off my back.
[00:13:04] Speaker C: Stop. Get away from I wouldn't be jumping on your back if you were stepping away from the artwork.
[00:13:10] Speaker B: But I got a better picture. Listen.
[00:13:15] Speaker C: You cannot thumbtack your own photograph of who is that boy in the sailor suit? Who is that?
[00:13:23] Speaker B: That's the real Popeye. Here we have an image of Popeye. I have a real popeye. That's a much better picture.
[00:13:29] Speaker C: I took it with my we cut to the photo studio where she's taking that picture of Mike as Popeye.
[00:13:35] Speaker B: Oh, honey.
[00:13:36] Speaker C: Mrs. G, I don't know if the olive oil outfit is really fitting me that well. I'm happy to do this for you.
[00:13:43] Speaker B: You know, I'm noticing that, but I kind of need you to do it because it's a representation, you see, it's like if the photographer by the way, this isn't my studio. I'm glad that you're letting me handle the camera here, Mr. Photographer. If you just stand next to my son in the olive oil costume. It'll be a great metaphor for, like, a young person desiring wanting to grow up and his own innocence. It's a great capturing of it. And you know what the best part is? It's real. We didn't have to make any weird colors from, like, plants crushed up. It's real. I can just take a picture with this photograph with this camera.
[00:14:26] Speaker A: I want McDonald's.
[00:14:28] Speaker B: That shit's really bad for you, honey. I don't know if that's a good right. All right, we'll go look at the McDonald's pictures after the show, okay? I promise.
[00:14:38] Speaker C: Well, this sure is a first for little Ansel Adams.
This sure is a first for little Bobby Maplethorpe, but what can you hmm. This sure is a first for.
[00:15:01] Speaker B: Sorry.
[00:15:01] Speaker A: I wanted to say MoMA. More like mama.
[00:15:06] Speaker C: That's what the New York Post headline was after she got arrested.
[00:15:12] Speaker B: It's the whirlwind of the newspaper landing classic MoMA must more like mom.
[00:15:19] Speaker C: And it's Mrs. G being pulled away from tacking her own photograph of Mike as Popeye over the Mona Lisa.
[00:15:30] Speaker A: Mike, you know what I love most about your mom?
[00:15:33] Speaker B: What's that?
[00:15:33] Speaker A: Is that her last name changes with your last name.
[00:15:36] Speaker C: She's so supportive.
She tracks down a man with a last name, starting with the corresponding last name, which is obviously why your current stepfather is Giuliani.
[00:15:53] Speaker A: Wow, two months of work for that one joke.
[00:16:01] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right. My new stepdad.
[00:16:05] Speaker C: And obviously we can all see where you got the hair.
[00:16:09] Speaker B: All right, listen, just because runs in.
[00:16:11] Speaker C: The family and down the face.
[00:16:15] Speaker B: Just because I'm leaking does not mean it's a genetic thing, okay?
[00:16:20] Speaker A: Especially because he's his stepdad.
There's no genetics there.
[00:16:25] Speaker C: Well, he learned. I assume.
[00:16:27] Speaker A: So, mike. Mike, your stepdad is Rudy Giuliani and you didn't invite him?
[00:16:32] Speaker B: I don't want to talk about I.
[00:16:33] Speaker A: Feel like that's the guy we got to talk to. I want to meet that psychopath.
[00:16:37] Speaker C: I'm still pissed at him about the whole joker's thing. I think I'm fine to keep him at a yeah, yeah.
[00:16:45] Speaker B: He did not handle that part of things well.
Yeah. Do we really want to invite Rudy?
[00:16:53] Speaker C: No, I'm fine not doing I think.
[00:16:56] Speaker B: That'S a good idea. I'm glad that my mom's here coming here tonight, because she did send me a text that a very long text, before I invited her about how she was going to fly to France and pin a photograph over the starry Night, because in her eyes, in her own words, that ship looks nothing like the night sky. And I got a better picture of it. And then I said, do you want to come to dinner? And she said, yeah, okay, and then abandoned those plans, I suppose. But, yeah.
[00:17:23] Speaker C: I will say her improvement on Starry Night obviously being the new Pepsi replacement for Sierra Mist starry being held by the Black Knight himself, Martin Lawrence.
[00:17:40] Speaker B: That was a long walk.
[00:17:41] Speaker A: I got a text it is a.
[00:17:43] Speaker C: Long walk, but so is it from here to Hoboken.
[00:17:48] Speaker A: I got a text. My guest is here. He needs help with pizzas in the car, so I'm going to let him in and then I'm going to go grab his pizzas.
[00:17:56] Speaker B: Cool.
[00:17:56] Speaker C: Okay. What should we do?
[00:17:59] Speaker A: Keep him occupied.
You'll see, alex goes to the door and gestures to someone. He says, Come on in, Father, I'll go get the rest of the pizzas. And this man with a long religion, cape, whatever you call them, but it's green and red, walks in.
He's got the Pope hat, but it's made out of like a cardboard pizza boxes. And he walks over to you guys and oh, hello.
[00:18:28] Speaker B: Hey.
[00:18:28] Speaker A: Come on in. I am Father John. It is nice to meet.
[00:18:37] Speaker B: About.
Listen, I don't know if we want you here at this event, actually, now that you mention it, I don't know.
[00:18:48] Speaker C: If the cake boss is coming. From what I've heard, no offense, he brings a similar energy as Father no, I'm not him.
[00:19:00] Speaker A: I run a church, not a restaurant.
[00:19:06] Speaker C: Or.
[00:19:10] Speaker A: Any any relation to anyone's, living or dead is purely coincidental.
[00:19:16] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:19:17] Speaker A: I'm Father John.
[00:19:18] Speaker C: Father John?
[00:19:19] Speaker B: Yeah. How long have you been delivering pizzas, Padre?
[00:19:23] Speaker C: Sermons, right, not pizzas.
[00:19:26] Speaker A: Yes, well, sometimes people order sermons to.
[00:19:33] Speaker C: Go as he's talking. We see.
We fade into what a service at his church is like, and people are coming up and he's handing them pizzas like communion. People are opening their mouths and he's putting a little pepperoncini on their tongues.
[00:19:50] Speaker B: So how long exactly has it been since you were excommunicated from the Catholic Church for transubstantiating? Pepperoni.
[00:19:59] Speaker C: Nobody knows what that word means. Mike, you're going to have to break.
[00:20:02] Speaker B: It down for us. Transubstantiation, you know, the process by which the priest changes the host from bread into the body of Christ. You tried to do that with pepperoni?
[00:20:11] Speaker A: I know what it is.
[00:20:12] Speaker B: The bread, the sauce, the cheese, all that? No, just the bread.
[00:20:16] Speaker C: Little cup of garlic sauce. Just the bread of Christ, obviously.
[00:20:20] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:20:21] Speaker A: Some people get in their communions, want the garlic sauce on the side, some people want it on top of the bread.
[00:20:26] Speaker C: Your Easter service, where you gave everyone spring veggie was so moving.
[00:20:33] Speaker B: I'm shocked that you lasted as long as you did in the Catholic Church. Honestly. Now that if you're saying that that was a part of things, that's pretty.
[00:20:43] Speaker A: They loved it while we did most of our Masses in the afternoon around lunchtime. So that's why we were so successful.
Indeed, child, huh?
[00:20:54] Speaker C: Indeed. Father, can I ask you, did you happen to watch on your way over here? I know you're delivering sermons. Season Three episode five of Everybody Loves Raymond Did you happen to catch it on one of the digital billboards or the bus benches that we put Led TVs on?
[00:21:14] Speaker A: I'm no fool. I know the laws of this town. I know I must watch the episode just in case. I am a sporadic guest on the podcast, so of course I watched it.
[00:21:24] Speaker C: That's pretty presumptuous that you think you're going to be sporadic as in you're going to come back, but who knows? I'm not one to turn away a man of the cloth.
[00:21:35] Speaker B: I am if his pizza sucks.
[00:21:39] Speaker C: Well, I have heard that it's gone downhill from a very reputable source.
[00:21:46] Speaker A: You don't know that.
[00:21:47] Speaker C: What'd you think of the episode?
[00:21:48] Speaker A: Oh, that's what you asked?
[00:21:49] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:21:49] Speaker A: I didn't hear you. I thought it was okay.
I thought of all the Raymond episodes I've seen, it was a fairly fine one. I thought it was a little tough to watch at certain points because of the cringe level, the awkwardness, but I think that's the sign of a good piece if they're able to communicate that family awkwardness appropriately. I thought the struggles Deborah was going through were credible and realistic and I felt that they could be very relatable to others that were watching. Especially when you have a family where one side may be closer to you than the other, it can be tough. What did you two think about the episode?
[00:22:38] Speaker C: I definitely agree that there were some very awkward moments in this and it made for great comedy. I thought just the simple premise of Ray. Despite being married to Deborah for several years at this point and knowing Warren and Lois is still so painfully uncomfortable around her, or maybe he has exhausted everything that he feels comfortable talking to her about already and doesn't want to get any deeper than that. But anyway, just them.
The scene where they're eating dinner, like the big set piece of this episode where they've pulled out a different one of their additional tables that they pull into that little space in between the living room and the kitchen than we've seen before. It's different from the one in the Thanksgiving episode and it's different from the one in the Aunt Serena episode. This is a completely third table.
A, where are they keeping these? And B, why do they have so many?
[00:23:44] Speaker B: I imagine they sold all of their guest towels to afford this one table.
[00:23:50] Speaker C: That's funny, I gotta say, Lois, it's okay. You don't need a dedicated guest towel.
[00:23:59] Speaker B: I kind of really liked that character.
[00:24:01] Speaker C: Choice, though, of like I know, it's.
[00:24:02] Speaker B: So funny in keeping with the first thing that we saw of Deborah's parents is that these guys are stuck up, rich assholes and they kind of stuck with it as just kind of humor in there. I loved it.
[00:24:16] Speaker A: They definitely turned it up for this episode to show the difference. I thought it was a good choice to do that first. Something so tiny just to kind of establish who she is and what she's all about, right know? Caught me right up because I didn't see the first time Deborah's parents were here because these laws were not enacted at that time.
[00:24:40] Speaker C: Oh, okay.
I guess not everybody voluntarily watches the show in order like we do.
[00:24:47] Speaker B: I'm liking you less and less, Padre. Here I'm going to be completely real.
[00:24:50] Speaker A: Too busy making it a pizza.
[00:24:52] Speaker C: Yeah, I got too busy eating 40 pizzas over the course of a year.
[00:24:56] Speaker A: Making the pizzas and treating all of my employees with dignity and respect.
[00:25:02] Speaker C: Well, I don't know anything about your business, but I'm sure it's fine. I'm sure you're fine, father John.
Oh, I wanted to bring up I like the way that they sort of breadcrumb us to Lois being very particular and sort of stuck up.
We find out that she wasn't playing on the playground with the kids. She sat on the bench the whole time doing a crossword. And then we get the guest towels thing and then literally getting on the phone with Warren, standing six inches away from Deborah, talking about, I think I'm going to go to the hotel, dear.
[00:25:46] Speaker A: She was so in earshot.
[00:25:48] Speaker C: I know later on when Robert is talking about how she like, what did he say? Hold on, I wrote it down.
When Robert is talking about how uncomfortable he makes her or she makes him, he is also like six inches. Like she's literally right behind him. It's like nobody in the room has the concept of earshot.
[00:26:16] Speaker B: There's a fourth wall in between the living room and the dining room and the kitchen, it seems, because that's the only explanation I would have as to why that would be okay to I don't.
[00:26:30] Speaker C: Don'T I have no idea. I guess it's like a stage wisp.
[00:26:34] Speaker B: Right. Because when Robert says the thing that's very, very hurtful about Lois, she does not react at all, despite the fact that she's sitting directly behind no, it's.
[00:26:45] Speaker A: The magic of television.
[00:26:47] Speaker C: I did like a lot, and I know we're jumping around a lot, but Robert coming in when he detects evidence of cake good detective work, by the way, from Robert. He smelled cake, saw that the cake was not there, and put two and two together. It must be at Raymond's. And then when he sees Lois and he goes, hello there sort of building on the thing where Ray can't call her by her name, as Ray says, she's a mother, she outranks me. But then we get the callback with Robert when he's leaving of saying goodbye there.
[00:27:29] Speaker B: Does Robert ever name Lois? Do we think Robert just doesn't know Lois's name?
[00:27:34] Speaker A: No, I think it's the same thing that Ray said where I think it's kind of that same philosophy where she outranks him as a mother and he feels uncomfortable calling her by her name.
[00:27:45] Speaker C: Yeah, just the mother figure looming large in the way that she does for Ray, like Marie does for Ray. And Robert has got to be so difficult for them to they're projecting that onto every mother that they come in contact with, I imagine, or at least older mothers. So, Father, sorry, are you staying for dinner?
[00:28:13] Speaker A: Oh, no, I'm doing my rounds.
I had a couple of deliveries to make, so after I dropped off the pizzas, I got to go do my important work giving people false hope for the future.
[00:28:27] Speaker B: Oh my God.
Again, I feel like I'm supposed to like you because you're a pizza priest, but also, the more you say, the more you say, the more I'm just like, you're a terrible person.
This might be an issue here.
[00:28:42] Speaker A: Are you saying that I, Father John, am not a good person?
[00:28:46] Speaker B: I think that might be what I'm saying. I'm sorry.
[00:28:49] Speaker C: Yeah. No offense, Father, but if Alex doesn't mind, I'm going to show you the A. Have a great night. Pizza be with you.
Goodbye.
[00:29:01] Speaker A: That's fine. I would also like it on the record that Alex does not like Father John either.
[00:29:07] Speaker C: Oh, why did he call?
[00:29:09] Speaker A: Because he likes my oh, well, isn't.
[00:29:12] Speaker C: That true for all of us? We hate Father John, but we love that pizza.
Or at least it's fine.
[00:29:21] Speaker A: I'm gonna go.
[00:29:22] Speaker C: Okay. Oh.
[00:29:23] Speaker B: Goodbye, Father.
[00:29:24] Speaker A: What a dick.
[00:29:25] Speaker C: Hey, at least we got the pizza. That guy was a nightmare.
[00:29:30] Speaker A: Did he give you some good material at least?
[00:29:32] Speaker C: He did have insights on the episode, to be honest.
[00:29:36] Speaker B: Some opinions.
[00:29:36] Speaker C: I'm glad we didn't talk about the Zimbabwe stuff with him.
[00:29:41] Speaker A: Oh, I'm sure he would have had some terrible things.
[00:29:43] Speaker B: He would have had some opinions. I agree.
[00:29:45] Speaker C: I thought this by the way, that whole aspect of this episode troubling.
I don't need the baroness particularly to be talking about tribes in any respect. It felt very broad for me.
[00:30:06] Speaker B: Listen, on the one hand, of course, you're right, it wasn't respectful. And I don't mean that actually dismissively or anything like that. But I did love just the sheer awkwardness of just like so he's in Africa, right? Yes. Deeply racist, ignorant comment. And then just the awkwardness that followed. I'll admit it, I laughed at that. Just like just that whole just the utter absurdity followed by that dead awkward silence. I thought that was a great bit. Great moment.
[00:30:38] Speaker C: You really can't the joke structure of talking about the topless women in National Geographic and Robert or somebody know, are they really topless? And Frank saying, no, they whip them out so they can be a National Geographic. I mean, that's funny.
[00:30:56] Speaker A: It is funny. It's fun.
[00:30:57] Speaker C: And then you go one layer below and you're like, oh, wow, that's racist.
[00:31:03] Speaker B: I thought that you were referencing the clicking thing, which is also pretty yeah.
[00:31:07] Speaker C: That'S when Imitating yeah, that's the conversation.
[00:31:16] Speaker B: They were having when Marie and Deborah were having the heart to heart upstairs and Ray was just alone looking for something to say. And the only thing he could say was that, like I said, just not very classy thing about the tribes in Zimbabwe. I thought that was I don't.
[00:31:39] Speaker C: So hold on. Let's set the scene just a little bit when they're having dinner and know a very awkward dinner. Lois, Ray and Deborah and the kids at the kids table.
Oh, that's what I wanted to say earlier. We start with Lois doing the crossword at the playground and then we see how awkward she is with the grandparents or the grandchildren. And it really builds to that final confrontation between her and Deborah of, like, I just didn't know how to mother like that.
Lois getting the phone call from Warren and Ray answering it and telling her that it's the great white Hunter. At first I was like, oh, that could be he's, you know, on a hunting trip or something. Then we find out that he's in Zimbabwe. And it takes on a little different know, like, broadly, the premise of this episode of making this poor woman presumably, like, when they've had guests stay over before they're sleeping in the basement on that prison cot. Right.
[00:32:56] Speaker B: Isn't the prison cot in Marie and Frank's house?
[00:33:01] Speaker C: No. When Aunt Serena stays.
[00:33:04] Speaker B: You're right. Yes, that's right.
[00:33:06] Speaker C: Yeah. So I hope that maybe one of the kids gave up their room, but.
[00:33:14] Speaker A: If they're too young to do yeah.
[00:33:16] Speaker C: I don't know.
[00:33:17] Speaker A: Unless it would have had to been.
[00:33:18] Speaker B: Allie or you could have moved the twins into.
[00:33:25] Speaker A: Want to I want to save a lot of the talk about Lois for when your snooty friends get here.
[00:33:31] Speaker C: Adam oh, okay. You think they can relate to I.
[00:33:35] Speaker A: Think they can give some good perspectives on if they think their type was properly represented.
[00:33:42] Speaker C: Well, I'd be interested to know, because I'm not snooty.
I'm kind of a Bruce Springsteen. And I personally would have wanted to stay in a hotel rather than with my daughter, her husband and their three very young children. With Maria Frank coming over.
[00:34:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:06] Speaker C: And Robert.
[00:34:07] Speaker B: I think that's a cold take there. Adam. I don't think it's that is a cold take. It's family that staying with the grandkids is not a bad thing.
[00:34:17] Speaker C: I think that's actually no, putting up.
[00:34:19] Speaker A: With bullshit is what family is all about.
[00:34:22] Speaker C: I just mean from a capacity standpoint and you sleep on the couch. This is an older woman that needs.
[00:34:31] Speaker B: Guest towels, which she shouldn't.
[00:34:33] Speaker C: She needs guest towels. She should sleep on the couch, then.
[00:34:37] Speaker A: No, then freaking Ray sleep on the couch. She takes their room with her daughter.
They can sleep in the same bed, mother and daughter. It's not a big deal.
[00:34:48] Speaker C: The point I'm trying to make is I think Lois doesn't want to stay there out of avoidance. But for me, for a comfort thing, a hotel would be nice if my option was prison caught in the basement versus nearby hotel. But Lois, I definitely think, doesn't want to stay there because she doesn't want to engage with Ray and Deborah more intimately than she has.
[00:35:19] Speaker B: Discussed. I guess there's. Really not much more planning, party planning to do everything's here.
[00:35:23] Speaker C: We've got water, we've got pizza, we've.
[00:35:25] Speaker B: Got what else do we need, Gus? This planet going fast.
[00:35:31] Speaker C: The fondant's spilling everywhere.
[00:35:33] Speaker B: Budy, you know what I got to do? You got to break open that window there, Gus. We're going through the window on my.
[00:35:41] Speaker C: Handy, taking the rubber thing off. That holds the emergency window in place. This is going to be good fondant right here. I'm going to emergency fondant.
[00:35:51] Speaker B: I'll throw out my Transformers watch. You see, buddy throws his watch. It changes midair into a Fiat. He jumps in wait for me. Jumps in, cracks a road, beer, chugs it and sprints off into the distance.
[00:36:08] Speaker C: Drives through the past.
[00:36:10] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly.
The train is following him. It's a great action sequence. Anyway, Smash, I think we're good.
[00:36:19] Speaker C: I think we've got dinner, drinks, desserts on the way. Question mark. I guess we'll find out. Well, why don't we take it up to the we're going to eat in the mayor's office, right?
Did we finish building the dining room, or is that still no mold? Right.
[00:36:44] Speaker A: Yeah, mold. And then you smash cut to the dining room and you see two men fighting a giant worm.
[00:36:52] Speaker B: Get back. Kill it. Kill it.
[00:36:56] Speaker C: How are we supposed to hang a chandelier in here with this giant world?
[00:37:00] Speaker A: The mayor has dinner tonight.
[00:37:04] Speaker C: Cut back. Or cut to us wheeling the classic room service metal dome thing cart into the office. Oh, my God. Mrs. Guggenheim. Mr. Guggenheim.
[00:37:17] Speaker B: Hello. It's good to see you.
[00:37:19] Speaker C: Mr. And Mrs. MoMA. So nice to see you.
[00:37:23] Speaker B: Hello, I'm Mrs. MoMA.
[00:37:25] Speaker C: Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know you were up here. If we would have come up sooner, but we have d'oeuvres.
[00:37:31] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:37:31] Speaker C: Here you go. This is real New York pizza.
You just want to take a slice.
[00:37:38] Speaker B: I've heard it's good because of the water. That is correct. I heard that was a myth.
[00:37:44] Speaker C: Well, all I know is that that's what they say. But don't worry, you won't have to drink the water either way. We got, of course, your fine, as requested. Fine Swiss water.
[00:37:54] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:37:55] Speaker C: From the wasserflu.
[00:37:56] Speaker B: The wasserflus. I don't see holes in it.
[00:37:59] Speaker C: How was your journey? I know you're coming from oh, yes, Guggenheim.
[00:38:04] Speaker B: Yes, sorry.
I'm sorry. We've been traveling so far all across the world that I forget. Yes, we've been traveling from Paris, we saw the Louvre, and unfortunately, the Starry Night was under renovation. Some other artistic protests. These artists, they're just too much gluing.
[00:38:23] Speaker C: Their hands to things, et cetera.
[00:38:25] Speaker B: Yes, you know, you know, mayor. Wait, no, you're not the mayor.
[00:38:30] Speaker C: You're the mayor.
[00:38:31] Speaker A: I'm the mayor, but I do know.
[00:38:33] Speaker C: Oh, our mayor is very classy, as you can see. Full tuxedo, of course, as we're all wearing.
[00:38:41] Speaker A: Alex is wearing very clearly just a T shirt. Tuxedo t shirt that has a tuxedo design on it.
[00:38:47] Speaker C: And Mike is wearing the tuxedo jacket, but nothing underneath like a Chippendale's dancer. And I'm wearing powder blue bowling for soup drunk enough to dance album cover. Tuxedo.
[00:39:01] Speaker A: You all look very nice.
[00:39:03] Speaker C: Thank you. Yes, and you, of course, as well.
Yes. Our mayor is very classy. He knows all about art. Everything here is definitely going to be to your liking.
[00:39:19] Speaker B: Oh, God. Oh, God. They've arrived. They're coming.
[00:39:25] Speaker C: Oh, shit. Let me excuse me, everyone. I'm just going to go down to the driveway.
[00:39:31] Speaker B: You see three limos pour up. The entirety of the 2023 New York Mets pour out, and you run into the mayor's office, followed by hold on, guys.
[00:39:45] Speaker A: Holy shit. You're going to have to identify these people for us. I don't know who any of these.
[00:39:50] Speaker B: Hey, you should know. You're from New York. Hey, Pete. Pete. Hold on a lot. That's the polar bear. Pete Alonzo. Yeah, he's Pete.
[00:40:00] Speaker A: Where's the donut guy? Donut guy?
[00:40:02] Speaker B: Donut guy? Pete, did you bring the donut guy with you? Oh, do you mean Daniel Vogelback, who is somewhat offensively named Danny Donuts because he's the largest person on the field?
[00:40:15] Speaker C: That's horrible.
[00:40:16] Speaker A: That's all you ever talk about when you bring him up.
[00:40:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, he owns it. He owns it. He changes his walk up theme is milkshakes, but still, I don't know if oh, Danny, you are here. Hey. Yeah. I'm Daniel Volgebeck.
I'm happy to be here. I'm happy to hit dingers. I'm happy to not be.
[00:40:37] Speaker A: Nice to meet you. I didn't mean to offend. That's just, like, brings you up, he.
[00:40:42] Speaker B: Calls you no, no, that's what the entirety of New York City calls me.
I don't take offense to it. I own it. But yeah.
[00:40:50] Speaker C: Why excuse me.
Why are you all here?
What can we help you with? I should phrase, hey.
[00:41:02] Speaker B: Where the baseball heads go? We go, too.
[00:41:05] Speaker A: I'm not sure where the baseball heads mr. Met is.
[00:41:10] Speaker B: Yeah, we're here to pave the way.
[00:41:13] Speaker C: You're accompanying the owner and proprietor of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, mr. Met and wife.
That seems odd. You baseball players?
[00:41:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:26] Speaker C: Is this like no, no, but the.
[00:41:28] Speaker B: New York Metropolitan so we just were here to pot. And then you see the baseball heads emerge from the back of the truck.
[00:41:37] Speaker C: Yeah. The sunroof of one of the limos opens up.
[00:41:41] Speaker B: It's me. It's me. I'm Mr. Met. I've been here the whole time. How you doing, baby?
[00:41:48] Speaker A: Is that what he sounds like?
[00:41:49] Speaker B: Hey. They don't let me talk most of the time at the game, so this is what I'm talking like now. This is great. I'm glad to be here.
[00:41:56] Speaker C: Could have seen this coming. Fuck.
[00:41:59] Speaker A: So wait, Mr. Met, are you actually affiliated with the Metropolitan Museum of History, art or whatever?
[00:42:07] Speaker B: The Metropolitan Museum of History. That's owned by the Yankees. We don't associate with them. That guy sucks. Mr. Met. I got the miss. I got the Museum of Art.
[00:42:17] Speaker C: So you are the same. So it wasn't a mix up. Mr. Met, the baseball mascot, is Mr. Met the owner of the Metropolitan Museum?
[00:42:27] Speaker B: What's better American art than the game of baseball? That's what I'm saying.
[00:42:30] Speaker A: I feel like that's kind of outdated.
[00:42:33] Speaker B: What are you talking about? Norman Rockwell painted baseball. Baseball was the just he just copied that.
[00:42:39] Speaker A: I'm just saying the youth of today pickleball is where it's at.
[00:42:45] Speaker B: Pickleball?
You heard of this Lindor? Have you heard of pickleball? You see, Francisco Lindor picks up his head just like yeah, it's actually pretty fun. It's a good time.
[00:42:55] Speaker C: It's sweeping the nation. Well, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that we weren't expecting all of you, but I think there's plenty of lemon chicken to go around. So why don't you come on upstairs, fellas.
[00:43:08] Speaker B: Playing pickleball now. First we lose Joanus to fighting a bull. Now they're playing just I can't handle it anymore.
These kids, they're killing me.
[00:43:21] Speaker C: Who are you?
[00:43:23] Speaker B: Mr. Met. He ducks down back in. He's just lamenting the state of baseball as a whole.
[00:43:29] Speaker C: Mr. Met, you can cut. You're actually the only one that we invited, so I would really like you to come inside.
[00:43:36] Speaker A: Absolutely. I rest of you, please.
[00:43:40] Speaker B: Hey, you can't kick out my boys.
[00:43:42] Speaker A: I'm the mayor. I get final say.
[00:43:46] Speaker B: I guess you're right, boys.
[00:43:49] Speaker A: So I say yeah.
[00:43:53] Speaker B: Cheer goes up as these as these millionaire baseball players.
[00:43:57] Speaker C: But above get one free dinner.
[00:44:01] Speaker B: They get to come and eat some chicken.
You see baseballs being thrown, baseball bats running in.
[00:44:09] Speaker C: We cut back upstairs where a lot more chairs have been brought in and you can tell which ones are extra.
And everyone's sitting around. A lot of people played on lap. All right, everyone, we're finally all here. Oh, we are just waiting for one more person, but go ahead, get started. Mike, do you have an ETA on your don't?
[00:44:31] Speaker B: I don't know. I think that I really don't I don't know. Where my mom? I here. Let me call her.
[00:44:40] Speaker C: Okay.
Takes phone off belt clip.
[00:44:45] Speaker B: Hey, mom.
[00:44:45] Speaker C: How are you, Mikey?
[00:44:48] Speaker D: How's my favorite stepson?
[00:44:51] Speaker B: Rudy, great to hear from you.
[00:44:56] Speaker C: Is Rudy.
[00:44:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:57] Speaker D: Hey, how you doing with this humidity? I'm leaking.
[00:45:01] Speaker B: I don't know how you yeah, I don't know how it is ever since you started marrying my mom.
[00:45:09] Speaker D: Don't worry, we are going to finish our vows one day. I can't keep my hair on for the duration because I have a lot to say. Can't keep my hair on for the duration of the ceremony. I'm not going to be leaking hair juice on my wedding.
[00:45:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm aware. And listen, ever since that happened, I just started leaking. Anyway, you know if mom's coming to dinner?
[00:45:32] Speaker D: She's getting ready right now.
[00:45:34] Speaker B: Getting ready?
[00:45:35] Speaker D: Vava voom.
[00:45:36] Speaker B: All right.
[00:45:37] Speaker D: Yeah, she's looking gorgeous.
[00:45:39] Speaker B: Rudy. Rudy, you can't keep talking about my mom that way.
What is it, Alex?
[00:45:43] Speaker A: Mike.
[00:45:44] Speaker B: Is that Rudy Giuliani? Yeah, he's on the line.
[00:45:48] Speaker A: Tell him I said hi, and tell him also to go suck like, a million dicks.
[00:45:54] Speaker B: Alex says hello, first of all. He's.
[00:45:58] Speaker D: Oh, I love that.
[00:45:59] Speaker B: Yet one mayor to know you're America's mayor. He's the mayor.
[00:46:03] Speaker C: Still am.
[00:46:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:05] Speaker D: Once America's Mayor, always America's Mayor. That's the Rudy Giuliani promise.
[00:46:10] Speaker B: Yeah, he also says suck a dick. Actually, specifically suck a million.
But yeah, I'm on my way.
Anyway, just tell mom to get here as soon as she can and start making those gross comments about her. That'd be great.
[00:46:25] Speaker D: All right. If I can keep my hands off her, she might get delayed with a little bit of stop and frisk.
[00:46:34] Speaker B: Goodbye, Rudy.
[00:46:35] Speaker D: You know what?
[00:46:35] Speaker B: I goodbye, Rudy.
[00:46:40] Speaker C: So, is she coming?
[00:46:42] Speaker B: I think.
[00:46:44] Speaker C: Okay, well, while we're waiting, why don't we all play a game? Everyone, if I could have everyone's attention.
[00:46:52] Speaker B: Baseball game we're waiting for not baseball.
[00:46:57] Speaker C: No, get back.
[00:47:00] Speaker B: They all know.
Packed the table.
[00:47:04] Speaker A: We're the away team. We're batting first.
[00:47:05] Speaker C: We should not have picked the tile pattern in the office. That happens to look a lot like a baseball diamond.
[00:47:12] Speaker B: I like.
[00:47:16] Speaker A: Was, you know, during that interlude between season two and season three when he was chairman of the tiles.
[00:47:22] Speaker C: Yeah. And, Mike, I have to admit, your race car desk does look cool.
[00:47:29] Speaker B: I know.
[00:47:31] Speaker C: No, we're not playing baseball. Everyone, I want to play a little game where we each go around, all 45 of us in this room, we each go around and say one thing, one thought or opinion that we had about this week's episode of Everybody Loves Raymond, season three, episode five, The Visit.
Any volunteers who wants to oh, yes. Go ahead, please. Hi, and do introduce yourself.
[00:47:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
My name is Bret Beatty. I'm the new third baseman for the New York Mets.
[00:48:05] Speaker C: Is that your real?
[00:48:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Bret Beatty.
[00:48:07] Speaker C: Your real person?
[00:48:07] Speaker B: That's a real person. And I'm standing right here right now. I'm a rookie, and I'm doing okay. And I just wanted to say that I liked the episode. I particularly liked the interaction of Frank just absolutely not giving a shit about the interaction with Lois walking in saying, let's cut the cake, and then Lois just not knowing what to do with that. I thought that was great. I thought that was a good detail. Thank you.
[00:48:38] Speaker C: Yeah. Him coming in and being like, cake. Hello. You said you were going to make a cake for the lady. We brought it over. Hello? Lois. Cake. Very funny. Yes, you over there.
[00:48:52] Speaker A: Hi, I'm Drew Smith, pitcher for the New York Mets, and I have an opinion about this week's episode.
[00:48:59] Speaker C: A lot of Mets speaking know museum people don't be afraid to chime in, but yeah, go ahead, Drew.
[00:49:06] Speaker A: I thought it was very interesting about kind of the grayness, about the intensity as far as to how awkward Ray was in the beginning of the episode, because we skipped the entire park scene when things were kind of already going downhill. I noted that Deborah was blaming Ray a lot for his actions thus far, but we didn't really see them. And we also knew that Deborah was probably being a little bit of a perfectionist in this time. So it's not clear to me how poorly Ray was being during this time, and I thought that was an interesting choice. I thought so I'm Drew Smith.
[00:49:50] Speaker C: Thank you, drew Smith. Very nice. Oh, round of applause or snaps from the room?
[00:49:55] Speaker A: That's my new favorite met.
[00:49:57] Speaker C: I also thought that Deborah was going a little hard on Ray to start, like, literally slapping him around with the towel seemed like a little much just for not like I mean, I get she wanted her mom to be involved. She wanted, you know, open up to her, bring her into the you know, it's not really Ray's fault that Lois doesn't want to engage with her grandchildren.
Any other takes on the yeah, you over.
[00:50:28] Speaker B: Hi. Hello. I'm Jeff McNeil. First of all, another man for the New York Mets. Yes, absolutely.
[00:50:37] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:50:38] Speaker A: We invited too many.
[00:50:39] Speaker B: You invited the whole 40 man roster, I got to say.
[00:50:42] Speaker C: Look, it is Christmas Eve, and they had nowhere else to go, so, I mean, it's be kind.
[00:50:49] Speaker B: Anyway, I just wanted to say I thought that was kind of fucked, the way that we saw how Miss Lois, what's Deborah's maiden name? Do we know Deborah's maiden name?
[00:51:03] Speaker C: Maybe not at this point.
It's Wheelin.
[00:51:07] Speaker B: Wheelin.
[00:51:08] Speaker C: Sorry.
[00:51:08] Speaker B: Irish. Still in the same wheelhouse.
[00:51:10] Speaker C: Hey, Wheelin house.
[00:51:12] Speaker B: Yeah, there we go.
But regardless, I kind of thought she's raised two kids to adulthood, right? Because Deborah's got her sister. How is she that bad at just know, being a parent? I'm a parent, and I gotta say, I'm not that.
[00:51:29] Speaker C: Hmm.
[00:51:30] Speaker A: I want to bounce off that.
[00:51:31] Speaker C: Go ahead. Who are you?
[00:51:33] Speaker A: My name is Brandon. I like flowers and gardening, and I also am the left fielder for the New York Mets. I think.
[00:51:43] Speaker B: Brandon, don't you play center field these days?
[00:51:46] Speaker A: Oh, sorry. I guess my Wikipedia article is a little out of you know, it's interesting to me that Lois seems to have no interest in her grandkids, but it did also kind of click near the end of the episode. She did come out and say that she feels like that she wasn't, like, that kind of mother, quote unquote, and there's not a correct way to be a mother, but I think it's important to state that that's what she said, not in that way.
[00:52:14] Speaker C: Well laughs from the room.
[00:52:17] Speaker A: Yeah, it's funny. Yeah, I know. I'm hilarious.
That she really, like, she took her to museums and galas and things like that, and that made Deborah a certain made Deborah who she is, and I don't think Lois can really do that with her grandkids. I don't think her grandkids have any interest in that stuff. At least yet.
So it's like she doesn't really know how to connect with them at this age. And I mean, with kids that age, it's know, sometimes they just don't like you or if you're not going to put in the effort, they're not going to really take a shine to you. And they're people that are more fun.
[00:52:56] Speaker C: That's a great point, butterfly man.
You can imagine when Allie gets older for like, maybe Lois will be like, oh, come to Paris with me or something.
That sort of rarefied experience seems to be the way that Lois shows love. So, yeah, I don't think she doesn't love her grandkids, but she just doesn't express it in the same way that Marie does, which is very much the opposite pole.
Anybody else have a thought on the episode? Yes, back there.
[00:53:27] Speaker B: Yes. Hello, I'm Mr. Guggenheim. This is finally, this is a very different experience than what I was expecting from this kind of a group, but I'll give it a shot. I thought that Lois was entirely in the right to take her siesta.
How dare Deborah not have guest towers. I just want to say how dare.
[00:53:50] Speaker C: Not have guests not have guest towels.
[00:53:52] Speaker B: How do you invite guests over and not have guest towers? Am I right? Does everyone agree?
[00:53:56] Speaker C: Oh, I'm sorry, you're saying guest towels. I thought you're saying guest house.
[00:54:00] Speaker B: No guest towels. Also a guest house. I get that. But I understand that people might have only a couple of billion dollars and they might not have enough for the third guest house. I get it.
[00:54:14] Speaker A: Can we get a counterpoint from someone at the table who isn't a multimillionaire? And you see like, no hands go up?
[00:54:21] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, that is true. We're part of the problem, aren't we?
[00:54:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Since we're charging 2000 plates at 2000 plates a dollar.
[00:54:30] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:54:31] Speaker B: You see, the Mets just look around each other and realize, oh, I guess we do fit in a little bit over here.
[00:54:37] Speaker C: Yeah. And the Mets start talking a little more with the rich people and clinking champagne glasses together. And then before you know it, mr. Guggenheim's wearing a Mets hat. Mr.
Example of a Mets player name is wearing a tuxedo.
This is really the meat.
[00:55:00] Speaker A: Step right up and Mets the meat.
[00:55:04] Speaker C: This is really going well, actually. Surprised how great this is going.
[00:55:08] Speaker B: I can't imagine this going any oh my gosh, my mom's here.
[00:55:12] Speaker C: Look at that, Mrs. G. Well, it.
[00:55:16] Speaker A: Was nice while it lasted. Here she is.
[00:55:18] Speaker B: Hello, everybody. Oh, my gosh, what a tableau. Rudy, set up the tripod.
[00:55:24] Speaker C: Hey, everybody.
[00:55:24] Speaker B: Oh, he's here.
[00:55:25] Speaker C: Don't mind me. No, don't worry. Everyone will get a handshake.
[00:55:29] Speaker B: Right?
[00:55:31] Speaker A: I thought I told security to look out for you.
[00:55:34] Speaker C: I'm putting the cannon on the tripod.
[00:55:37] Speaker B: Mom, you didn't have to bring him. Absolutely I did. He's your dad, after all. What am I supposed to do?
He's going to put a little damper on everything all right? Everybody stay. Candid, stay fine. Let's take this snapshot. Oh, this is such a great picture. And then, as she's taking the pictures, we hear sirens in the background, slowly getting louder and louder as the cake boss theme starts pouring into the house.
[00:56:09] Speaker C: Can you I'm not familiar with the cake boss theme.
[00:56:14] Speaker B: Hey, I'm the cake boss. I'm buddy. Velastro. They call me the cake boss.
[00:56:22] Speaker C: Oh, my God.
Everybody, wait just a second. Mrs. G, keep taking pictures. Mr. Mayor, nice to see you. I'm going to be right back. I'm running downstairs.
[00:56:34] Speaker B: We have you surrounded. Put the beer down and pull over.
[00:56:38] Speaker C: Everybody, it's okay. It's okay. He's supposed to be here.
[00:56:44] Speaker B: Screeching as he drifts into the driveway.
[00:56:48] Speaker C: Okay. Hey, Mr. Velastro. Nice to see I didn't actually realize that you were coming. Come on inside. And officers, it's okay. It's okay. He's supposed to be here.
[00:57:00] Speaker B: I got your cake right in.
[00:57:01] Speaker A: Buddy, you're welcome to sit, but we have to wait. The construction, if you could see, like, 500ft down, the constructionists are still working on building that part of the table. It's a little long.
[00:57:13] Speaker B: The construction we don't got no, we don't got no time for constructionist. Gus, get the cake. Get the cake.
[00:57:18] Speaker C: And Gus steps out of the cake. Sorry. He steps out of the car and the car and reveals that the car is the cake.
[00:57:28] Speaker B: You said that you wanted. You said that you wanted, like, a little chocolate something or other. But that's okay. I used a chocolate base. And then I just went to town on the fondant, and I had made a real working car out of edible. Buddy, if you count fondant to be edible, which most people don't.
[00:57:46] Speaker A: Buddy, I'm sure this would be amazing if it wasn't rear ended it's so.
[00:57:51] Speaker B: Some asshole hit me on the turnpike.
[00:57:55] Speaker C: It is a little busted up, but I think it's great. I don't know if this is too much to ask, or if you have time to do this, but could you make another car behind it that's rear ending this car to make, like, a tableau?
[00:58:09] Speaker B: Let's see. Gus, how much fondant we got?
[00:58:14] Speaker C: Not enough, but I think we got to fill this order.
[00:58:18] Speaker B: Buddy, let's make it happen. And you see them cartoonishly. You don't see them hammering. You just see a cloud of dust.
[00:58:26] Speaker C: And a bunch of fists.
[00:58:27] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:58:29] Speaker A: You see more Rice Krispie treats going into it than kids.
[00:58:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:58:33] Speaker C: Wow. And we fast forward just a little bit, and all of the guests are out on the lawn. A tent has gone up and string lights, and it's beautiful. There's a jazz quartet playing. Oh, my God, this is beautiful. I've never seen such an event.
[00:58:50] Speaker B: And this cake, I will say, this is great. This is excellent. This is excellent.
[00:58:57] Speaker C: Quite.
[00:58:57] Speaker A: I think I'm so much almost as.
[00:58:59] Speaker B: Cool as the time I hit 53 home runs in a season.
[00:59:03] Speaker A: Almost all right, good. Hey. Thank you, ARod. It's very nice.
[00:59:09] Speaker B: Yeah. ARod, I don't know why you never played for the Mets, I don't know why you're here, but I'm just trying to sell my new steroid. It's just not really catching on as well. Listen, after JLo left me, my life kind of hit the trash can. I hit the cake with the bat.
[00:59:27] Speaker C: Wait until more people have had a slice. But you can oh, is this yours?
[00:59:33] Speaker A: It's this little pill bottle. It says Great Bod with a rod.
[00:59:37] Speaker B: That's the one.
[00:59:39] Speaker C: That's sort of your answer to Nugenix total t. Is that what I mean?
[00:59:46] Speaker B: I shouldn't legally be saying cut to the commercial.
[00:59:48] Speaker C: Oh, my God, a Rod, you're looking fantastic.
[00:59:53] Speaker B: You just see A Rod absolutely choked with of just like, yeah, I'm looking great. And it's all because of great bod with a rod. This supplement is going to make you hot. And then, as he says that, you see a long script of an essay of doctor's warnings as they just quickly.
[01:00:15] Speaker C: Come across freeze frame hours of text along the screen. I can't believe what a great success this has been. I think I didn't want to tell you this in case it didn't pan out, guys, but I think we are going to have a branch of the Guggenheim here in Just Am. It's it's going to be great. I mean, we're going to get so many tourists are going to come in and mrs G, if you want no pressure, but we would love to have an exhibition of some of your photos, mike, maybe from the Mike series as Popeye or as Tom and Jerry? Both of them.
[01:01:02] Speaker B: I would love to.
[01:01:03] Speaker A: No wonder you're so good at it. I mean, Mike's always been such a great exhibitionist.
[01:01:07] Speaker B: I'm aware.
[01:01:08] Speaker C: I guess we see where he got it.
[01:01:10] Speaker B: That's a great idea. And I've been collecting photos for a new exhibit.
What do you think about a Bourdois exhibit of me and Rudy Giuliani? Just vava voom.
This day could not have gone worse for me.
Hey.
[01:01:31] Speaker C: Before you get to that, honey, I think I'm going to have to give you a little bit of stop.
[01:01:39] Speaker A: All right, Mike. Adam, run.
[01:01:41] Speaker B: Roll the credits. We all laugh.
[01:01:43] Speaker C: Well, guys, another success. Fade out of that, obviously.
Well, guys, another successful event from the local government.
[01:01:56] Speaker A: We're finishing up the episode too. Before we do our whole do you guys have any other first of all.
[01:02:04] Speaker B: I just want to say I'm loving how much the Mets are really loving Buddy buddy.
He's given up on using cakes. He's forming fondant into the shape of baseballs and throwing it into their open mouths.
This is a wholesome time. This is great.
[01:02:24] Speaker A: Nice. I kind of meant about the episode.
[01:02:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
I will also say I thought that we've had two episodes in a row now where the hot close is one of the funniest parts of the episode.
[01:02:35] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. I can't believe we had so many great takes from the guests. I can't believe nobody touched on really one of the funniest, best physical gags that I think we've had.
[01:02:47] Speaker A: And that had to be like, one take.
[01:02:52] Speaker C: I wrote that down. I was like, I really hope they didn't have to do multiple takes of this because that was not fake TV eating, spitting in the bucket.
[01:03:01] Speaker A: No, they were not.
[01:03:03] Speaker C: They were housing that cake.
[01:03:04] Speaker B: Consume. They went for it. They just went for it. Yeah.
[01:03:08] Speaker C: Also, I got a point that made it funnier. Robert was not chinning at all.
[01:03:12] Speaker B: No.
[01:03:13] Speaker C: So that's two times in a row that we've seen Robert eating and not doing the chin thing.
[01:03:18] Speaker A: So either he was rushing or he's making some progress.
[01:03:21] Speaker C: Yeah. I hope it's the latter.
But I love the setup of that, of they're slowly eating the cake. They get the call, they obviously don't answer it. And it goes to voicemail or whatever it would have been at that point. The answering machine. And it's Frank's.
[01:03:40] Speaker A: Hey, leave a message.
[01:03:42] Speaker C: Everything's fine now. You can bring the cake back over. And as she's talking, getting progressively faster.
[01:03:49] Speaker B: I just love how the more they listen, the quicker they start eating.
I just thought that was a great detail.
[01:03:55] Speaker C: And then I'm coming over and they hit peak velocity. And then Frank and Ray Bale and Robert Tripping is so funny so that.
[01:04:04] Speaker A: She go on without yourself.
[01:04:06] Speaker C: And then it was Raymond. I tried to stop him. That was so good.
[01:04:13] Speaker A: That's with cake on his face, too, which is just perfect.
[01:04:17] Speaker C: That was so good.
One of the better physical hot closes that. We've sure. For sure. In terms of other things that we didn't talk about with the guests, let's see. We covered Renois. Pierre August Renois, a leading painter in the development of the Impressionist style. So a little bit of culture on this show. I wanted to talk about Ray's song. I wrote down his song. Lemon Chicken. Very pretty. Lemon chicken is sweet but the chicken of the poor lemon is impossible to.
[01:04:53] Speaker A: Eat and Deborah said he sang it wrong.
[01:04:57] Speaker C: Those aren't the words.
[01:05:00] Speaker A: That's actually a lot of history.
[01:05:02] Speaker C: That's like a haiku. That's very poignant.
[01:05:04] Speaker B: It's pretty solid. It's pretty great.
[01:05:08] Speaker C: I just thought that was really funny, especially in the midst of that very awkward scene. But I guess everyone who was here earlier had some emotional mother relationship issues we didn't talk about really at all.
Marie, Deborah and Lois. That emotional.
[01:05:28] Speaker A: About to bring that up. Yeah.
[01:05:30] Speaker C: When Deborah gets so frustrated and she says that she wants Lois to lois is like what she's like? I don't know. Be more like her. Gesturing at Marie. The Marie.
[01:05:43] Speaker A: Everyone freezes.
[01:05:45] Speaker C: Listening, turning the expression that she has that definitely deserved the applause break that it got. That was such a range of emotion as she came around, and it was just so heartwarming because we know about Deborah and Marie's relationship. I was just awed at Doris Roberts and then great reaction from Robert as well, of, like, so good.
[01:06:10] Speaker A: Like, who.
[01:06:11] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[01:06:12] Speaker A: Why?
[01:06:14] Speaker C: And then in the next know, Ray and Deborah upstairs, and then Marie comes in. Oh, Deborah.
And then pushing in between Deborah and Ray on the bench was just very obviously it's like Marie is very narcissistic in that she's responding very warmly to Deborah when Deborah has given her very high praise. That's how it goes. Literally comparing her to her own mother and saying that Marie is better. That's what makes Marie warm up to Deborah in a huge way.
I liked the line of Deborah saying she's my mother, referring to Lois and Marie saying, yes, dear, but she's not mother ish. She's a nice lady, but she's not mother ish. She's not the kind of mother we are.
That was so funny.
[01:07:14] Speaker B: It was very funny, but it was also very real.
I know that it was meant to be, like, condescending and stuff like that, but it also was weirdly comforting, I'm sure, from Deborah's perspective, to realize, like, no, your mother's not a bad lady. She just doesn't have the motherly instinct that Marie has to a toxic. Yeah.
[01:07:37] Speaker C: Yeah.
She's not overbearing.
[01:07:40] Speaker A: We need to take, like, half of Marie and put it into Lois.
[01:07:46] Speaker C: Yeah, we need Lois's cultural or artistic enrichment and Marie's affection and nurturing. And then together we've got a real great mom. Almost like your mom, Mike.
[01:08:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, that's a different she cares. That's a different point of conversation.
[01:08:07] Speaker A: She cares.
I think.
[01:08:09] Speaker C: I mean, I've seen the photos that she's taken of you. The Donald Duck one particularly.
Those were taken with love.
[01:08:18] Speaker B: That's one word for it. Anyway, let's go.
I'll talk about that with my therapist at a different time.
[01:08:24] Speaker C: Okay. Hey, why don't you open up to your stepdad about.
[01:08:31] Speaker B: No.
[01:08:31] Speaker C: Okay. Anything that you guys wanted to touch on? I think I got everything.
[01:08:41] Speaker A: I like Ray's Feeble attempts to diffuse the situation between Deborah and her mother at the dinner table. Yeah, I thought that was funny, but aside from that, I didn't have much else to say.
[01:08:52] Speaker C: All right, I think then we can, if I'm correct in this assessment, Mike, turn our attention to the classic barometer.
[01:08:59] Speaker B: I think you're right.
[01:09:01] Speaker C: Okay. Our scale from one to ten, on which we rate Ray's performance as a husband's son, son in law brother, or husband father compared to the great dads of sitcom history. You know uncle Phil. Danny Tanner. Alex, give me another one.
[01:09:17] Speaker A: No shit.
[01:09:21] Speaker C: Queen Latifah. Yep. And one being the terrible men of sitcom or television history walter White, Don Draper. Men who actively harm their families, such.
[01:09:32] Speaker B: As Mike, tony Soprano.
[01:09:36] Speaker C: OOH, good. I think we may have brought him up before.
[01:09:40] Speaker B: Too bad we're doing it again for.
[01:09:41] Speaker C: Good reason, because he is a bad dad.
[01:09:45] Speaker B: Well, actually, before we. Get into that. I got a phone call. I got to take this. It's from Rudy. You have a hey, Rudy, I'll just take this.
Didn't take the I didn't take the sorry. Listen, I'm sorry, guys.
[01:10:02] Speaker C: I think he meant the plugs. Didn't know his body rejected them.
[01:10:06] Speaker B: Hey, I'm Buddy Velasco. I heard that we were trying to judge some people up in Budy.
[01:10:13] Speaker A: It's you.
[01:10:14] Speaker C: Buddy, did you want to get paid for the two cakes that you made?
[01:10:20] Speaker B: Is that why you I mean, I would I would love to, but you know what would be even better? Payment is for me to participate in the Baron Meta, and then we're good.
[01:10:28] Speaker C: Oh, you're a fan?
[01:10:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Also, if you guys could bail me out of jail later, I was shotgunning a beer while doing 80 on the turnpike.
[01:10:36] Speaker A: That means we don't have to pay.
[01:10:38] Speaker C: You, bail you out of jail later. So you're expecting to be arrested?
[01:10:42] Speaker B: There were a lot of cops out there. They're enjoying the cake right now. I make good cake, but when they stop being when they're full, they're going to remember why they were here in the first place and that I'm going under. But listen, the Jersey cops, I just got to explain to them I'm the.
[01:11:01] Speaker C: Fucking they don't have jurisdiction here, though, so you should be fine, actually.
[01:11:05] Speaker B: All right, great, because typically, I just say I'm the fucking cake boss, and then they let me walk.
[01:11:09] Speaker C: But, you know so Jersey cops, they don't have jurisdiction in New York, so you're safe here, and then when you're in Jersey, you outrank them. Yeah, okay.
[01:11:19] Speaker B: I'm fine.
[01:11:21] Speaker C: Wait. Oh, I wanted to ask actually, I've always wanted to ask you're, the cake boss, what's your relationship with the.
[01:11:32] Speaker B: That guy's? That guy didn't want to go on tour one year, so I made a real life animatronic Made out of cake. We've been tight ever since.
[01:11:42] Speaker C: Oh, wow. That's why his last album was weird and bad.
[01:11:46] Speaker B: Yeah, that's it was.
[01:11:48] Speaker C: That why.
Oh, wait, does that mean that so that was Tour. That wasn't his podcast with Obama? Did you bring that back for Made?
[01:12:00] Speaker B: No, that one's really him. That one's all him. Obama, though.
Obama's made of Krispy treats, so, you know, you take what you get.
[01:12:11] Speaker C: All right, that might be the title of the.
[01:12:16] Speaker B: Crispy treats.
[01:12:18] Speaker C: So, Buddy, I assume because you're a listener, you know how we handle you saw the episode, right? We do have one of those Carlos Bakery vending machines here. That is the only one that I'm pulling right now is in the welcome center on 95 going through Delaware. That's the one.
But we have one here, so I assume you were standing in front of it watching the episode.
[01:12:46] Speaker B: That's correct.
[01:12:47] Speaker C: Okay, good. So you have a take, as it were, on the absolutely episode.
[01:12:52] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[01:12:53] Speaker C: Okay, so because you're our guest, why don't Alex and I go first? For me, honestly, this was a Deborah episode, I felt like, and it was Deborah's journey that we sort of went on.
Ray sort of did. I thought he kind of did what he could. I mean, Ray is Rey, so you can't really expect him to come alive and be that kind of extroverted to Lois. On the other hand, they've been married for, like, ten years. He should have a relationship with his mother in law maybe, at this point.
So I feel like it's kind of middle of the road, but I don't think he heard anything, and I think he actually I mean, he was good to Deborah in this episode. The only thing maybe that he did wrong was eat the cake.
I'm going to give him a six. Alex, where is he? Coming in for you?
[01:13:46] Speaker A: Yeah, not too far away.
I really didn't try to judge Rey as a supporter in this episode, obviously, because that's what he was, and I totally agree. I think at this point in their relationship, rey should have some sort of connection with Lois, like, be able to call her by her, like, that's some high school shit that he's going through.
But in this particular interaction, in this particular situation, I think it was the smart move to kind of try and stay out of it. This was not about him. This was about Deborah and her mother.
I think he could have done more to keep his own family away so that Deborah and her mother could have privacy to figure that out. But we all know that that's a lost cause.
Four and a half, nothing special. I think he did a little worse than average.
[01:14:50] Speaker C: All right. Okay, buddy. So you see how it works.
[01:14:54] Speaker A: All right.
[01:14:55] Speaker B: I got to be honest with you. Listen, I don't know much about family. I don't know much about nothing.
[01:15:03] Speaker C: You don't have a family.
[01:15:05] Speaker B: I will actually don't.
[01:15:06] Speaker C: You have I haven't seen a lot of your show, but I have to assume you've got, like, a loud mouth son and fiery daughter who doesn't take no shit. Or at the cake kitchen.
[01:15:18] Speaker B: Listen, to be clear, one of the primary parts of my show is that the cake boss is a family, and that with the whole family coming together. However, I don't know much about family, all right? I'm a bad dad. I'm not a good on this scale.
I wouldn't be too high up. I would not be the Bob Sacks of the world. You know what saying? However however, I gotta say, I was particularly shocked with the way that Ray dealt with this episode. First of all, you had an okay cake there. The cake was not great. It had a little tilt to it was not perfectly straight, was not perfectly 180 degrees. It was already a mediocre cake.
Listen, cakes might look bad and taste great. That's okay. That's fine. What's not okay is if you're bringing it over for a party you don't taste the product before everybody else gets to. And Ray ate the cake, didn't give it to the mom, didn't give it to his guests, didn't give it to nobody, and didn't even go through the process of making it into a fun balloon shape or some shit like that. You know what I mean? He sucks one.
[01:16:25] Speaker C: Can I just ask what one?
[01:16:28] Speaker B: He gets one.
[01:16:30] Speaker C: Wow. Okay.
[01:16:31] Speaker B: They go in hungry because of Ray.
[01:16:35] Speaker C: Okay, so you're judging him primarily as a cake eater.
[01:16:39] Speaker B: What else is there to judge?
[01:16:40] Speaker C: Someone on that's poignant. What do you mean by a fun balloon shape? Do you mean a cake in the shape of a balloon or like it has to be like a balloon animal.
[01:16:51] Speaker B: Oh, that's interesting. I would take a balloon animal. That could be fun. That could be a challenge. That could be cool.
[01:16:57] Speaker C: Do you want to make one of those?
[01:16:58] Speaker B: I could do that.
[01:16:59] Speaker C: You have time?
[01:17:00] Speaker B: Yeah. Hold on.
Someone just give me a cake, like from carvell or some shit like that. Just right here. Okay, great.
I see it.
[01:17:09] Speaker C: Whoa. Father John came back and brought him a carvell ice cream.
[01:17:13] Speaker B: This is great. And you see Buddy just twisting and taking basically working it like it's a balloon animal and turning it into a little dog? Yeah, there you go. What you gonna do?
[01:17:26] Speaker C: Well, we saw him working it like a real balloon, like a little dog. But that was from Buddy's perspective. What Adam and Alex saw was him stick both of his hands into the cake and mush it around and then lift it up and say, bada bing, bada boom. Oh, wow.
[01:17:46] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:17:50] Speaker C: Right now eat it.
Okay. Do I have to? All right.
I guess you weren't wrong. A cake can look horrible and taste great.
[01:18:04] Speaker B: Hey, fuck. Yeah. Listen, I'll take you outside. How about that? Right now? Come on, let's go.
[01:18:08] Speaker C: Oh, no, please.
[01:18:09] Speaker A: With cake, it's usually the other way around.
[01:18:11] Speaker B: And then he opens the door and there are six police officers waiting.
Guys, you don't understand. Here. I'm the fucking cake boss. You can't do that.
[01:18:22] Speaker C: Oh, sorry.
Standing down here, take our guns in bed. Take our guns in bed.
[01:18:28] Speaker B: What did I tell you? What did I tell you? What did I tell you? All right.
[01:18:30] Speaker C: Hey, Buddy, you got us on. Can we borrow some money for the path to get back to Hoboken?
[01:18:41] Speaker B: I don't know, boys. I gotta be honest with like, you should have known. You came after me. I was gonna take your car home. You knew that. You knew that. You should have planned this better.
[01:18:52] Speaker C: So all six of us New Jersey cops are trapped in limbrook for the rest of our lives?
[01:18:58] Speaker B: Yes. So, yes.
[01:18:59] Speaker A: That's how suckers.
[01:19:01] Speaker B: All right, I finally got Rudy to deal with the plugs. We already dealt with the barometer.
[01:19:08] Speaker C: Yeah, don't worry, buddy Velastro came and really screwed up the average six plus one, plus 4.5.
[01:19:16] Speaker B: What is Jesus? Was he the six or the four point or the 4.5?
[01:19:21] Speaker C: I'm not allowed this has never come up before, but we are not allowed to disclose who gave what barometer rating to each other.
[01:19:30] Speaker B: Well, that leaves Ray with a 3.8 for the episode.
[01:19:37] Speaker C: I got to be honest, that one does not seem right to me.
[01:19:40] Speaker B: That seems deeply harsh.
[01:19:43] Speaker C: Well, that's how the barometer goes sometimes.
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[01:21:03] Speaker C: And we love.
